Guest Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 9 hours ago, WestRider said: Oh, yeah, not denying that there has been scale creep. Just that it's not as bad as that pic with the Slaughterpriest might indicate. Well, definitely an unfair comparison for many reasons. The two models aren't even supposed to be incarnations of eachother - different factions even. Want scale creep, start comparing incarnations of Bloodthirsters or Avatars. There's some scale creep. Even comparing chaos warriors to chaos warriors, scale creep. But comparing character model from faction X to core rank and file infantry from faction Y isn't fair. And GW typically makes characters a bit bigger. And that particular character is supposed to be taller than average. And pictured rank and file model isn't even on a base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 3 hours ago, paxmiles said: Well, definitely an unfair comparison for many reasons. The two models aren't even supposed to be incarnations of eachother - different factions even. Want scale creep, start comparing incarnations of Bloodthirsters or Avatars. There's some scale creep. Even comparing chaos warriors to chaos warriors, scale creep. But comparing character model from faction X to core rank and file infantry from faction Y isn't fair. And GW typically makes characters a bit bigger. And that particular character is supposed to be taller than average. And pictured rank and file model isn't even on a base. I feel that stuff like the Greater Daemons and Avatars is less about scale creep and more about improvements in GW's resources and sculpting/casting technology. Pretty sure they always wanted them to be that huge, but it just wasn't viable with metal Models, or plastics when they had to be sculpted by hand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 It’s also less noticeable since those are supposed to be monsters... In my head I can easily accept the idea that two different daemonic entities from beyond reality might look radically different. When two human (or superhuman) models meant to be mere mortals from the same faction are dramatically different in scale, like those two Blood Angels Tactical Marines it’s a lot more obvious. I’m not a “rivet counter” who is overly concerned about how perfectly true to scale accurate my toy soldiers are... But it can be a little funny looking if someone mixes older and newer models . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ish said: But it can be a little funny looking if someone mixes older and newer models . Remember, Primaris are just closer to the camera. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Rock Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 52 minutes ago, andy said: Remember, Primaris are just closer to the camera. "I'm ready for my close up, Mr. DeVille." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 hours ago, WestRider said: I feel that stuff like the Greater Daemons and Avatars is less about scale creep and more about improvements in GW's resources and sculpting/casting technology. Pretty sure they always wanted them to be that huge, but it just wasn't viable with metal Models, or plastics when they had to be sculpted by hand. Well, I think it's fair to consider is scale creep, but I'm certainly happy with the changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 22 hours ago, paxmiles said: Well, I think it's fair to consider is scale creep, but I'm certainly happy with the changes. Wait, wut?! Pax, is happy with change?! With a change that is GW doing?! This might truly be the End Times. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Sugarlessllama said: Wait, wut?! Pax, is happy with change?! With a change that is GW doing?! This might truly be the End Times. Ever played 40k where the eldar player fields their avatar on the 25mm round it came with? I have. Really glad they made that model bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Rock Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Wait, what? What was his other foot on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sgt. Rock said: Wait, what? What was his other foot on? https://images.app.goo.gl/GvVtJ4DzVoMHkQsq6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Rock Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Oh. Wow. Yeah, that model was before my time. That's... small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 The original Avatar wasn't much larger than the other Eldar infantry. Maybe about 50 mm in height, as I recall. About 60 mm to the top of his spear... It was a pretty awesome model. If anyone has one kicking around their collection these days, they could probably field it as a Phoenix Lord or something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 I've faced that 25mm round avatar in 8e. Really easy to confuse it with nearby guardians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwulf Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 The new Sisters Box contents have been revealed! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/11/sisters-of-battle-army-set-unboxinggw-homepage-post-1/?m_i=12f19O%2Bq733WoMggT3PAikdD1aP8Z34pgsZXgT%2B6hnsubIuW1H3_SDXzbBXX4jGbPRCZLKknI%2BLH%2BqZdlZ%2Bs%2Bcs%2BjL93UB The only down side? I estimate it's only about 500 points or so. 120 for the Squad, 80 for the Serephim, 75 for the Cannoness, 150 for the Penitent Engine, 75-ish for the rest. GW also promises more Sisters of Battle models... in 2020. I know they have previewed the Exorcist and Immolator. They also previewed the heavy weapons squad, right? That leaves maybe a couple more HQ types, and the elite SoB's. I really hope they don't add the Ecclesiarchy into the SoB they way they did in 5th and 6th! I thought it was absurd that they best HQ was a Priest, and using a horde of basically "cultists" and Death Cult Assassins the way to play SoB's. It would be nice if a full army of Sisters in a Battalion or Brigade detachment would be a viable force on the table, dare it be said a competitive force, without having to bring IG or Imperial Knights, or some other foolishness detachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 I always liked Frateris Militia, Preachers, Missionaries, and other parts of the Ecclesiarchy being part of the army. That dates all the way back to their original Second Edition codex... the problem was that the codices you mentioned made them better than the Battle Sisters at doing the Battle Sisters’ jobs! Frateris Militia should be cannon fodder chaff, Preachers should be squishy force multipliers that buff the Militia, etc. They should be useful, but limited to very specific roles. (Or just drop them altogether and encourage people to make nifty conversions of the Imperial Guard blob detachments they’ll inevitably add.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 The Miracle Dice are a great mechanic. Nothing else here really jumps out at me, but GW isn't always great at picking what to show off in the previews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted November 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 @RobynMM says it is a Woedium. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 How about that, GW finally seems to have come up with an Acts of Faith mechanic that doesn’t stink on ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Estimated price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, Brother Glacius said: Estimated price? $210 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 8 hours ago, necrontyr said: Meanwhile, a multipart Canoness gives you your own customisable commander for the Adepta Sororitas, armed for any of your battlefield needs – or just for what you personally think would be the most fun to paint. And if my battlefield needs involve a jump pack or some other form of actual mobility? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 I haven’t read the new rules, but are Canonesses still not allowed jump packs? GW’s whole “not in the box, not in the rules” design ethos these last couple years has been incredibly annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowbakk Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Maybe the hover-podium counts as a jetbike. Anyone else have the Schoolhouse Rock song about pronouns start to play in their head when they saw the steps up in the back view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 I was just distracted by the fact that the Aquilla that makes up the front of the podium has the incorrect number of eyes for a post-Heresy design. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 20 hours ago, Ish said: I haven’t read the new rules, but are Canonesses still not allowed jump packs? GW’s whole “not in the box, not in the rules” design ethos these last couple years has been incredibly annoying. I don't actually know, but it's one of the complaints I've seen come up most frequently, and GW hasn't addressed it at all. And yeah, it was more generally a jab at that policy. That really cuts into a lot of what I like about 40K and other GW games as a hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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