pretre Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Here's the top 8 at LVO: http://ftgtgaming.blogspot.com/2017/02/lvo-top-8-breakdown.html Brandon Grant - Dark Angels, Ministorum, and Space Wolves: Lions Blade Detachment:Azrael Company Master: Terminator Armour, Storm Bolter, Chain Fist Chaplain: Bike, Melta Bombs 2x5 Tacticals: Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Drop Pod 2x5 Tacticals: Meltagun, Razorback 2x5 Tacticals: Melta bomb, Razorback 5 Assault Marines: Flamer, Razorback 5 Assault Marines: 2 Flamers, Drop Pod 2x5 Devastators: 1 Grav Cannon, Rhino Dreadnought: TLHF, Powerfist w/Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod 5 Scouts: Bolters Ministorum Delegation:Ministorum Priest: Litanies of Faith Wolfin Formation4x10 Fenrisian Wolves Sean Nayden - Eldar, Tau, and Sisters of Silence: Eldar Iyanden CADFarseer: Jetbike, Singing Spear Farseer: Jetbike, Wraithforge Stone, Singing Spear 2x3 Windrider Jetbikes: 2 Scatter Lasers 3 Singing Spears: Exarch w/Star Lance Warp Hunter Nightspinner Wraithknight: Ghostglaive and Shield, 2 Scatter Lasers, Warlord Bunker: Escape Hatch Riptide Wing:Riptide: EWO, Advanced Targeting System Riptide: EWO Riptide: EWO, Velocity Tracker Null Maiden Task Force:5 Sisters of Silence: Executioner Great Blades Brett Perkins - Renegades and Daemons: Renegades CAD:Command Squad: Covenant of Nurgle, Ordinance Tyrant 3 Artillery Carriage: Earthshaker 2 Wyvern Wyvern 2x17 Plague Zombies 4x1 Quad Mortar 3x3 Rapier Laser Destroyers Skyshield Landing Pad Daemons CADMasque Fateweaver 2x10 Brimstones 7 Screamers Heralds AnarchicHoT: Lvl3, Paradox, Disc HoT: Lvl1, Exalted Reward, Disc HoT: Lvl1 Dan Platt - Daemons, CSM: Thousand Sons CADSorceror: MoT 2x10 Cultists: MoT Magnus Daemons CADFateweaver (WL) Masque 10 Pink Horrors 10 Brimstones 7 Screamers Heralds Anarchic:HoT: Disc, Exalted HoT: Disc, Locus of Trickery HoT: Disc, Lvl3, Paradox Carter Leach - Corsairs and Dark Eldar: 2 Scalpel Squadrons4x5 Wracks: Ossefactor, Venom w/2 Splinter Cannons Corsair CoteriePrince: Reaper of the Outer Dark, Shadowfield, Void Sabre, Cloud Dancer w/Catapults" Baron: Power Lance, Shadow Field, Cloud Dancer w/ Catapults Baron: Shadowfield, Void Sabre, Cloud Dancer w/ Splinter Rifles 2x Balestrike Band: 5 Corsairs w/Shuriken Cannons, Venom w/Splinter Cannon 2x3 Cloud Dancers w/Splinter Cannon 4x3 Cloud Dancers w/Shuriken Cannon 2x1 Corsair Hornet: Kinetic Shroud William Abilez - Tau (note - list approximated from Frontline's Article): Farsight CAD:Commander w/drones Some Single Crisis Suit Teams 2×2 Tetras A Devilfish 2x Skyrays Stormsurge Riptide Wing:Triptide w/ 2x Burst Cannons, 1 Ion Cannon Matt Root - War Convocation and Librarius Conclave: War Convocation:Dominus: Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Eradication ray, Infoslave Skull, Macrostubber, Scryerskull Perspicatus Servitor w/Plasma Cannon 2x3 Destroyers: Cognis Flamer, Heavy Grav Cannon Dunecrawler: Cognis Heavy Stubber, Cognis Manipulator, Icarus Array, Mindscanner Probe 5 Infiltrators: Flechette Blasters and Taser Goads, Princeps w/ Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Infoslave Skull, and The Phase Taser 5 Ruststalkers: Transonic Razor, Chordclaw, and Mindscrambler Grenades, Princeps w/Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Prehensile Dataspike, and the Omnicient Mask 5 Rangers: Ominspex, 2 Plasma Caliver, Alpha w/Arc Maul, Arc Pistol Phospenix, Conversion Field, Digital Weapons 5 Vanguard: Omnispex, 2 Plasma Caliver, Alpha w/Arc Maul, Pater Radium, Conversion Field, Digital Weapons 5 Dragoons: Phospor Serpentas Knight Crusader: Rapid Fire Battle Cannon, 1 Meltagun, Stormspear Rocket Pod Librarius Conclave:3x1 Librarian: Lvl1, Force Axe, 1 Auspex Justin Curtis - Daemons and Chaos Space Marines: Thousand Sons CAD:Sorceror: MoT, Force Axe, Melta Bombs, VotLW 2x10 Cultist: MoT Magnus VSG: 3 Shields Daemons CAD:Fatey 2x10 Brimstones 7 Screamers Heralds Anarchic:HoT: Exalted, Disc, Lvl3 HoT: Paradox, Disc, Lvl3 HoT: Disc, Lvl1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottshoemaker Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Perhaps this debate is exactly why this year is using individual pairings rather than team pairings? With this subtle change perhaps this will be the outcome: 1. Players will self regulate the first match looking for roughly equal matchups, resulting in solid games. (No one wants to curb stomp anyone at OFCC) This is where we need to take a long hard look at our lists and playstyle. 2. The load on the List Rating Committee is lessened. Let's face it, doing mounds of administrative paperwork for free isn't fun. 3. Streamlining of subsequent matchups, reducing the amount of time and effort required by the volunteer staff. Just my ramblings. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I think that is certainly one of the goals of the new format. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumpkinHead Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Are we going to be using any software to report games to make things easier for pairings? Or are we going to be doing the traditional paper method? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokerd Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 So, it's cool if I bring two warhounds for my OFCC list because I can bring what I want and I can find opponents who will give me good, fun, competitive games? Great. I would LOVE to play against two Warhounds! I've always wanted to see these guys in action, but just can't talk my wife into spending that much money on ONE, let alone two. And while I'm pretty sure you could kill most of my army, I'm thinking I might have a few surprises in it for you. My intent in the first post was really - "hard" lists don't make bad games and "soft" lists don't make good games. Fun games come from people, matchups (because we want to play people with similarly styled lists), and atmosphere - all of which OFCC traditionally delivers in spades. And I just had a thought - for all of my games this year, whenever a '1' is rolled, the opponent of whoever rolled it (so either me or the guy across the table) has to take a swig of their beverage of choice (mine will be root beer). Maybe it won't hurt so bad when I roll 5 1's on 6 dice for armor saves and pick up a Terminator squad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I'm pretty sure you have a significantly different outlook from a lot of people. I can't say that definitively, but most folks like to have at least a chance to win the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I'm pretty sure you have a significantly different outlook from a lot of people. I can't say that definitively, but most folks like to have at least a chance to win the game. Maybe a good wording is: a level playing field... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 So, it's cool if I bring two warhounds for my OFCC list because I can bring what I want and I can find opponents who will give me good, fun, competitive games? Great. Awkward....I was bringing the same thing. Mirror match will be great fun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier319 Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Guys. Let's calm down. If they keep their word. then all of the tough, nasty tournament lists will play over in one corner, while the rest of us will play with out silly armies on the rest of the tables. They pointed out extremely tough lists will all play each other every round. So it'll just be a bunch of wraithknights, battle companies and super friends punching each other in the corner. I'm not speaking ill of anything or anyone, just saying how I understand it from EB's post on how they are doing things. They can bring anything they want. As my dad used to tell me "You can do anything you want son, this is America... you just have to live with the consequences of your actions." The consequence of bringing a super-tough list, is you'll play all the other super-tough lists and not mingle much. And with win-loss meaning nothing at this event, hey, go for it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I seem to have missed it. What was the mechanic for keeping all the super-tough lists consistently matched against each other? Because W/L records alone don't do that. Or more accurately, they basically do it every other round, and on the rounds they don't, you tend to have super strong lists that lost playing weaker lists that lost, and super strong lists that won playing weaker lists that won. It only works for the ends of the bell curve, the middle of the field (i.e. most of the people there) end up with a lot of bad matchups if there's a wide range of lists, and no matching system other than W/L. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 That's the problem, right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisruptiveConduct Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Westrider, dont put too much thought into it. We are going to do the same thing we did the last two years as far as pairings go. They all turned out pretty good based on the feedback received. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainA Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 I seem to have missed it. What was the mechanic for keeping all the super-tough lists consistently matched against each other? Because W/L records alone don't do that. Or more accurately, they basically do it every other round, and on the rounds they don't, you tend to have super strong lists that lost playing weaker lists that lost, and super strong lists that won playing weaker lists that won. It only works for the ends of the bell curve, the middle of the field (i.e. most of the people there) end up with a lot of bad matchups if there's a wide range of lists, and no matching system other than W/L. I believe they are still planning a LRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted February 17, 2017 Report Share Posted February 17, 2017 Westrider, dont put too much thought into it. We are going to do the same thing we did the last two years as far as pairings go. They all turned out pretty good based on the feedback received. The last two years paired by Teams. The whole source of contention was the removal of Team pairings and switching to individual pairings. Or has that changed back? And even within the realm of what's made it through the LRC, there have been a lot of potential bad matchups out there, a huge percentage of which have been mitigated by the Captain Matchup System. I bring it up because almost* all of my bad experiences in Tournaments have been with someone who brought a nasty list**, but didn't have the skill they thought they did, and were bitter about getting knocked down by actual top players, when I was just looking for a chill day hanging out in the bottom half of the standings and throw dice and hang with people. *The rest were first-round pairings with similar types. And one genuine WAAC jerk, but that was 14 years ago. **I would particularly note that there are a substantial number of lists right now that can't hang at the top, including some that can be put together basically by accident, or as an inherent consequence of their Codex, but will ROFLstomp typical OFCC lists. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 In all seriousness, I am not unlikely to bring a Warhound, if I buy one. If matches are decided by grouping 8 people and auctioning off fights, shouldn't be too hard to get a fight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Auctioning off fights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoshin Posted February 18, 2017 Report Share Posted February 18, 2017 Auctioning off fights? It's like fallout, but instead of bottle caps we use leftover bits as currency! =D 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalripphook Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 So....challenge round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier319 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Thing is, nothing i am bringing can fight a legit titan. It's orkz. I wont make it across the table. Sounds 'fun' to me. Matchups are going to be nightmarish. Saltiness aside, I know people want to bring cool toys, but bringing such polarizing lists means you will mostly have bad matchups one way or the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Auctioning off fights? I'm offering shots and edibles/oils to peep wanting/willing to throw down vs the hypothetical Warhound in my not yet made OFCC list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinx Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 LOL and here is me trying to make an even softer assault based tau list (Yes you read that correct) for this year or a fluffy based Biel Tan Eldar list with guardian spam. In all honesty i think the OFCC has always had the chance to polarize folks to either enjoy competitive games over the weekend or like me enjoy getting drunk, rolling some dice and eating bacon products. I have never come to OFCC expecting to win or needing too to enjoy it. For me its great seeing friends and randoms enjoying a hobby as much as i do and getting to all be socially awkward together. LOL I will forever be in this train of thought and take competitive tournament lists to other tournaments locally and save them of ITC events. Just my 2 cents. Sam 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier319 Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 On 2/23/2017 at 4:50 PM, splinx said: LOL and here is me trying to make an even softer assault based tau list (Yes you read that correct) for this year or a fluffy based Biel Tan Eldar list with guardian spam. In all honesty i think the OFCC has always had the chance to polarize folks to either enjoy competitive games over the weekend or like me enjoy getting drunk, rolling some dice and eating bacon products. I have never come to OFCC expecting to win or needing too to enjoy it. For me its great seeing friends and randoms enjoying a hobby as much as i do and getting to all be socially awkward together. LOL I will forever be in this train of thought and take competitive tournament lists to other tournaments locally and save them of ITC events. Just my 2 cents. Sam Agreed. But not playing competitively, and having one-sided games are different. Most people don't enjoy one-sided games, win or lose. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkie Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 So, having read the Player's Guide, I'm kind of confused on what it means to be a mercenary. Does that just mean a person without a team? As I understood it, in years previous, a mercenary was someone without a team, that is then used to fill in on other, odd-numbered teams. Kind of like PourSpelur's "Those without teams for OFCC 2017" thread. The language this year seems to indicate it's just a more menacing title for someone gaming solo. Or by registering as an individual are you also automatically entering the pool of mercenaries for hire, but if you go undrafted, you'll still be eligible for certain awards? Or am I wildly over thinking all of this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted April 15, 2017 Report Share Posted April 15, 2017 I got drafted but I'm not sure how to go about changing my mercenary ticket purchase. Honestly I don't care either way just a little clueless and no help to the captain that picked me up... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkie Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Hello? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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