Munkie Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 2 hours ago, spagunk said: But thanks for saying my concerns are invalid and I'm off the deep end. Apologies. That wasn't my intention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I'm so glad you guys are trying to ruin the new 40K before its even out. That is just commitment there. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Brother Glacius said: I'm so glad you guys are trying to ruin the new 40K before its even out. That is just commitment there. Just fyi, this has happened with literally every edition 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 48 minutes ago, Brother Glacius said: I'm so glad you guys are trying to ruin the new 40K before its even out. That is just commitment there. I know right?! 42 minutes ago, Dusldorf said: Just fyi, this has happened with literally every edition We all know that the haters got to hate; especially on the internet. But that doesn't mean it doesn't get old every single time. I know for me personally, I have been super excited for a lot of the changes. And it has been exhausting to see a number of people just wallowing in their seas of sadness, in a weird attempt to be a wet blanket. I don't get it, and frankly, I'm over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Sugarlessllama said: and frankly, I'm over it. Hmm, clearly 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Sugarlessllama said: We all know that the haters got to hate; especially on the internet. I don't think spagunk is hating so much as griping. 8th edition dawned bright and beautiful for most of us (Horde Orks are a legit threat! HUZZAH!) but I'm hearing plenty of BA players and basic SM players saying they lack a certain je ne sais quoi. Its early yet, but, again, if we want change, we have to advocate for change. You think BA aren't up to snuff, great, tell GW. You think BA are fine and dandy, great, tell GW. And, finally, what do you expect from the internet? I hear plenty of IRL griping and moaning at stores and gaming events. This isn't located strictly on the web. Besides, most people (who aren't post count hoarders...) only post when they feel strongly about something. For better or worse, the human mind tends to focus on negative thoughts mostly and therefore those tend to be the strongest and most likely to be expressed, especially in a safer setting like a web board devoted to a hobby. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I don't know about fine, but the BA are a bunch of dandies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 13 hours ago, VonVilkee said: Sisters are so amazing now! ...as ever. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Sugarlessllama said: This. So much this. Personally, I have found competitive 40K players to be kind of lazy. And what I mean by that, is that they lean too much on their army rules being out of balance rather than on their skill as a player. When the top tables are all, "the meta" as can be found on a netlist, I don't consider than excellent play on their part. So, that's my two cents. That is a drum i have been beating for some time now so i am glad to hear someone besides me express it. I dedicated my blog to the idea, I have attempted to represent that ideal in my own gamer world and I agree whole heartedly. Tactics is a thing. Timing is a thing. Strategy and deployment are things. Creative planning with terrain is a thing. Objective placement, a thing. sacrifice is a thing. Finding the chink in the armor is a thing. Exploiting it is a thing. Overcoming bad dice is a thing and making sure you dont rely on dice to the extent possible in your planning is a thing. ...and then there's list building, which is the means to the end, but which is treated like the end by so many. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scottshoemaker Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 21 hours ago, Lord Hanaur said: did you laminate them or... just print them? Or do you mean kind of like just a list? I screen capped the warscrolls, pulled them into photoshop and cropped them to include just the title, stat line and rules text. I resized them so that I could fit 4 such scrolls on an 8.5 x 11 sheet in landscape. I double side printed to fit 8 units on a sheet, then put the sheets in a binder slip, then put the slips in a report binder. I organized the units by my usage to minimize flipping around 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spagunk Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 2 hours ago, InfestedKerrigan said: I don't know about fine, but the BA are a bunch of dandies. Don't kink shame. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottshoemaker Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Folks, don't forget that these books are grey lists. Meant to get you by until the app is created or whatever. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Only an hour until my first game of the new edition! Score! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, scottshoemaker said: Folks, don't forget that these books are grey lists. Meant to get you by until the app is created or whatever. Yup. This is the best reason to get them in digital format imo. Faster updates, and less sunk cost when the actual codexes release. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 I like having them all... gives me a place where I have like everything and can pull it out to play with the kid some day... everything changes so start here then "graduate" to the current whenever that is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Just got a second Game in. Dude. That felt so good to put a (more or less) classic walking Nid List down and actually get a Game rather than just getting shot off the board before hitting the midline. I mean, yes, it was against DeathWing, so that probably wouldn't have happened even in 7th, but still. Great Game, some good back and forth, but the Deathwing just didn't quite have the numbers and weight of fire/attacks to fend off the chitinous swarm. Having Tyranid Warriors and Raveners and a walking Tyrant and a Screamer-Killer all really pull their weight felt awesome. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 8 hours ago, scottshoemaker said: I screen capped the warscrolls, pulled them into photoshop and cropped them to include just the title, stat line and rules text. I resized them so that I could fit 4 such scrolls on an 8.5 x 11 sheet in landscape. I double side printed to fit 8 units on a sheet, then put the sheets in a binder slip, then put the slips in a report binder. I organized the units by my usage to minimize flipping around well crap. I am photoshop incapable (don't judge me). It sounds kind of like what they did in that program someone posted, albeit its a program and not photoshopped. Doublesides and fgour to a page really makes it a lot easier. What did you do about the weapons information. It took some page flipping to glide back and forth between the entry, the the weapons page and that summary page. It wasn't necessary on everything of course but it was necessary enough. So many changes necessitated it. I will see if I have a friend whose super competent with that program and see what his free time looks like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.cosgrove Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 "That really diminishes the psychic capabilities which many lists rely on for their strategies, such as Chaos units moving a unit twice with Warp Time, etc." You can only cast a psychic power once per turn in match play except for Smite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergentzimm Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Any details on when and where the free rules are? cant find them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 They do not appear to be up yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Ebooks are up for DL,,but showing pending right now. Hop in the Que! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/17/new-edition-now-available-read-the-rules-get-the-t-shirtgw-homepage-post-1/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 New Edition Now Available – Read the Rules, Get the T-Shirt! Warhammer 40,000 is finally here! You can get started right now with Dark Imperium, the new book, and more at our online store or by heading down to your local shop. We know you’ll want to get out and playing as soon as possible, so we’ve got some free rules (!) available here to give you the chance to get close and personal with the new edition. The Battle Primer is designed to be a foundation for the game, available to all players. While you’ll need the rulebook for the advanced rules and three ways to play, the Battle Primer contains the Core rules of the new edition, as well as an example of a game turn. There’s even a scenario for you to play! Download the Battle Primer in your language below. Future releases will contain rules in the box, so you’ll be able to get stuck in as soon as possible. If you have questions about the rules in the new edition, you’ll want to read the Designers’ Commentary. We’ve had all sorts of queries about the rules and our team have written a document designed to explain the core principles behind the game, from coherency to characters, to dice rolls themselves. Whatever your level of experience, it’ll be sure to be a valuable resource in any of your games. Finally, we’ve got a new T-shirt design available from Warhammer Wargear, reproducing the awesome helmet and crossed bolters design from the new rulebook. If you’re a fan of the Ultramarines, Death Guard, or just all things 40,000, here’s a stylish way to show it. Get your indexes, rulebook and Dark Imperium in-stores and online now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 I think this edition will be good for the game. It has excited many and the fact that GW has used player input to make it better is a VAST improvement over their old methods. I am happy to be back. Oh, I will likely never win but meh. Nothing is the same as it was in the past, of you come into this with an expectation, you will likely become dissatisfied. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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