blackvigil Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ish said: I've been strongly considering an army of Adeptus Custodes ever since they got released at the tail end of 7th Edition. I've always had a soft-spot for ultra-low model count armies of nigh-indestructible badasses. Sadly, the mighty Deathwing Terminators don't quite seem to cut it these days. But the golden banana custards might just be the ticket. Before I decided on my wraith host, I was going to go with Custodes. I love low model count armies. I ultimately decided to do xenos, but I think getting a custodes army off the ground wouldn't cost much, particularly since everything is going up in points. I am guessing that 1500-1700 in the current edition will be 2k in 9th. So, it's even fewer models to buy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 The army I've had sitting in my copy of BattleScripe as a "maybe" comes to exactly 2,000 Points. It's hardly the most original Custodes list, but it seems good enough: HQ: Captain-General Valoris, Shield-Captain on Jetbike Troops: Custodian Guard Squad (1x sword and shield, 4x spears); Custodian Guard Squad (1x sword and shield, 4x spears); Sagittarum Custodian Squad (x5) Elite: Vexllus Praetor (axe and vexillia magnifica) Fast: Vertus Praetor Squad (1x salvo launcher, 3x hurricane bolters); Vertus Praetor Squad (1x salvo launcher, 3x hurricane bolters) (There's also Misercordia added to just about everyone who can use one.) Doing some rough math, that would cost me about $350 dollars... What I'm considering now is putting in an order for just three boxes of Custodians, a set of FW's Sagittarum arms, one box of Jetbikes, and the Captain-General Valoris blister pack. I don't know exactly what the future points adjustments will be, but I think its safe to assume that the Troops choices above are going to remain the vital core of nearly any Custodes army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackvigil Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, Ish said: The army I've had sitting in my copy of BattleScripe as a "maybe" comes to exactly 2,000 Points. It's hardly the most original Custodes list, but it seems good enough: HQ: Captain-General Valoris, Shield-Captain on Jetbike Troops: Custodian Guard Squad (1x sword and shield, 4x spears); Custodian Guard Squad (1x sword and shield, 4x spears); Sagittarum Custodian Squad (x5) Elite: Vexllus Praetor (axe and vexillia magnifica) Fast: Vertus Praetor Squad (1x salvo launcher, 3x hurricane bolters); Vertus Praetor Squad (1x salvo launcher, 3x hurricane bolters) (There's also Misercordia added to just about everyone who can use one.) Doing some rough math, that would cost me about $350 dollars... What I'm considering now is putting in an order for just three boxes of Custodians, a set of FW's Sagittarum arms, one box of Jetbikes, and the Captain-General Valoris blister pack. I don't know exactly what the future points adjustments will be, but I think its safe to assume that the Troops choices above are going to remain the vital core of nearly any Custodes army. I made a very similar list. I like Wardens for high strength attacks, so I had them instead of Sagittarum. I think getting Custodians, Jetbikes, and Valoris is a meta-proof strategy. Those are auto-includes, and should keep you busy. Also, you might be able to start a Crusade game where you build them up over time. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Wardens are an Elites slot, so although they have pretty much the same shooting profile and a slightly better mêlée punch, they don’t fill that mandatory role... and we all know that no matter the edition, every army is always going to need basic grunts. I actually greatly prefer the look of the Wardens to the standard Custodes. Two of the five bodies in the standard box are in a running pose. Nothing wrong with the sculpts on a technical level, but I would just rather have all of them in a firm “holding this ground” stance... I was considering using Warden models for basic Custodians, but figured that would annoy my opponents. I’ll have to see if I can repose the running models when they get here. Yes, I said “when they get here.” I pulled the trigger and ordered a couple boxes an hour ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackvigil Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Nice! Also, use the toys you want. I would take the running models and put them in a squad together, with some fluff like they always lead the charge, or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 I was definitely thinking of separating out enough “standing firm” legs to make the whole squad of Sagittarium Custodes look like they’re standing together. It’s a minor bit of aesthetics, but it’s important to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroStride Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 It seems like points costs are increasing by ~20% though, so planning a 1500pt list could be the right way to go, and then you've got a bit of head-room once we know the points costs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 That’s the plan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 So liekthe old days. You can fire into or out of it but not THORUGH it. Cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 Time to find my box of trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Hanaur Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 42 minutes ago, andy said: Time to find my box of trees. trees may not have this rule. we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted June 11, 2020 Report Share Posted June 11, 2020 I’m guessing forests will be Area, Light Cover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 And so, after all this time, they’re basically making Aircraft work the way Forge World has them work back in the original Imperial Armour books from Third Edition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottshoemaker Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 5/24/2020 at 7:34 PM, Brother Glacius said: I just wish GW would go in a different direction with the necrons...now all of a sudden everything has multiple legs and arms (as in more than 2). Just seems odd and a bit too close to that new undead faction they released for AoS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottshoemaker Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 Regarding aircraft, seems like the typical basing is obsolete. Maybe a tripod cradle out of clear acrylic is the way to go. Or a GorillaPod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, scottshoemaker said: Regarding aircraft, seems like the typical basing is obsolete. Maybe a tripod cradle out of clear acrylic is the way to go. Or a GorillaPod? • Install a 6’ x 4’ sheet of ferrous metal on the ceiling above your gaming table. • Attach an eye bolt to the dorsal surface of all Aircraft models, attach a length of fishing line to that eye bolt. • Attach the other end of the fishing line to a strong rare earth magnet. • Attach magnet to metal sheet. • Request permission to buzz the tower. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewgeddon Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, scottshoemaker said: Regarding aircraft, seems like the typical basing is obsolete. Maybe a tripod cradle out of clear acrylic is the way to go. Or a GorillaPod? I don't see where it says a model can end it's movement on a flyer's base, so their standard base still seems to serve a purpose? It seems that, as I read it, a flyer is still able to obstruct movement if you don't have enough room to more completely over the base? Also, very disappointed with this preview. Not disappointed with the rules or content, but I feel like GW had an extremely easy opportunity to make a "Highway to the Danger Zone" reference, and they didn't take it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Andrewgeddon said: I feel like GW had an extremely easy opportunity to make a "Highway to the Danger Zone" reference, and they didn't take it. They literally subtitled a huge section of the article “The Danger Zone,” made another reference to the song in the article’s text, and they quoted Maverick in the caption for one picture. I mean... Did you need to see Roboute Guilliman playing guitar for a Kenny Logins cover? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottshoemaker Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, Andrewgeddon said: I don't see where it says a model can end it's movement on a flyer's base, so their standard base still seems to serve a purpose? It seems that, as I read it, a flyer is still able to obstruct movement if you don't have enough room to more completely over the base? Also, very disappointed with this preview. Not disappointed with the rules or content, but I feel like GW had an extremely easy opportunity to make a "Highway to the Danger Zone" reference, and they didn't take it. Beats me. Sounds like FAQ time. In completely unrelated news, my new product line of "Completely Unobtrusive Fight Stands" will be on sale exactly 1 minute after the FAQ is released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewgeddon Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ish said: They literally subtitled a huge section of the article “The Danger Zone,” made another reference to the song in the article’s text, and they quoted Maverick in the caption for one picture. I mean... Did you need to see Roboute Guilliman playing guitar for a Kenny Logins cover? 28 minutes ago, necrontyr said: Like this: The Danger Zone Your Flyers will soon be coming and going as they please – no more bugging out or flying off into the sunset! If it leaves the battlefield, a Flyer can just swoop around to return later in the battle and deliver a murderous strafing run. In the new edition, the danger zone is very much ON the battlefield, right where it belongs! Not a single mention of a highway in either of your quotes. You GW apologists are all the same! Also, Noise Marine guitar solo > Bobby G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 Everyone knows that the Ultramarines are the greatest musicians in the 41st Millennium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrewgeddon Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ish said: Everyone knows that the Ultramarines are the greatest musicians in the 41st Millennium! I probably spent a week straight last summer listening to this video and the "Bold Brothas" video. Is the grim darkness of the far future, there is only jamz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarbicus Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 I have been reading that non-Primaris marines are going away. Makes me sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted June 12, 2020 Report Share Posted June 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yarbicus said: I have been reading that non-Primaris marines are going away. Makes me sad. We knew it was a thing the moment Primaris were announced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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