jollyork Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 @michaels it says right in the footnotes of that article: Quote 56. "Lord Nuffle says F*#K your concept of random." Blood Bowl Handbook v1.0 documentation. Retrieved 1987-08-29. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaels Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Burk said: pseudorandom ......generates a ......sequence. love this from the "cons": Can take a long time to start generating output that passes randomness tests, RNG is not Random For blood bowl it's random enough. https://forums.focus-home.com/topic/1111/rng-some-questions-answered Though if you want to say you lost because of dice you can always use this: http://onesandskulls.com/ 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, michaels said: Though if you want to say you lost because of dice you can always use this: http://onesandskulls.com/ 😁 Nice! I've been looking through the dice stats that BB2 records itself after each game, but this has some way better breakdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burk Posted December 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, michaels said: For blood bowl it's random enough. https://forums.focus-home.com/topic/1111/rng-some-questions-answered Though if you want to say you lost because of dice you can always use this: http://onesandskulls.com/ 😁 its still not R....nothing you can point to will change that. My statement is 100% true and verifiable by your own link. Next...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Does it really matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ish said: Does it really matter? We're gamers. Of course we wouldn't argue so much about anything that really matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burk Posted December 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Ish said: Does it really matter? its a long standing debate in the BB2 community. So yes it does for keeping the tension, and laughs going. Note this is mainly done in jest, although you must always remember the most important thing about this game is that it has clearly been proven that RNG is not R. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaels Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 48 minutes ago, Burk said: its a long standing debate in the BB2 community. So yes it does for keeping the tension, and laughs going. Note this is mainly done in jest, although you must always remember the most important thing about this game is that it has clearly been proven that RNG is not R. I can't believe you made me link to Dode. You're a monster! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielmannsfluch Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/12/2019 at 10:44 PM, Ish said: What Nuffle giveth, Nuffle taketh away. That's why I prefer Crom. Fewer rituals and holy days... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielmannsfluch Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 11 hours ago, WestRider said: We're gamers. Of course we wouldn't argue so much about anything that really matters. But at least one of us is a former New Yorker and HackMaster GameMaster who is more likely to provoke an inappropriate response the more time goes on. After all, on a long enough timeline and considering actual economic conditions, all character parties will evolve to Neutral Evil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weav Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Ish said: Does it really matter? Nothing really matters to me...any way the wind blows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigurdBC Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 On another note, a PSA for all the coaches in the league. <clears throat> BE SURE TO DECLARE A BLITZ WITH YOUR BALL CARRIER WHEN YOU ARE BLOCKING A DEFENDER BEFORE YOU MAKE A RUN FOR THE ENDZONE. I got too excited when @Bosco blitzed my Troll Slayer who had the ball (yes my troll slayer picked up a lose ball) and rolled quad-skulls. I then proceeded to just do a regular block on his catcher marking me and forgot to declare a blitz to then run into the endzone. Cost me a tie. Well played @Bosco Best of luck in Round 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, SigurdBC said: On another note, a PSA for all the coaches in the league. <clears throat> BE SURE TO DECLARE A BLITZ WITH YOUR BALL CARRIER WHEN YOU ARE BLOCKING A DEFENDER BEFORE YOU MAKE A RUN FOR THE ENDZONE. I got too excited when @Bosco blitzed my Troll Slayer who had the ball (yes my troll slayer picked up a lose ball) and rolled quad-skulls. I then proceeded to just do a regular block on his catcher marking me and forgot to declare a blitz to then run into the endzone. Cost me a tie. Well played @Bosco Best of luck in Round 3. GG @SigurdBC, sorry I can't chat much in game playing with a steam controller, or at least not at a pace that remains relevant to the actions in the game by the time I post them. That not-blitz was a moment of panic and then confusion when I realized you hadn't blitzed, but I totally get being caught up in the moment and forgetting the blitz action, especially in that interface where it is a separate series of actions. Should have been a tie in the end. Good luck with the rest of your season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaels Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Someone buy @Bosco a keyboard. He's obviously incapable of taking care of himself. When's the last game going down? I'm ready to get a heaping helping of @Burk's But-Hole (Warriors). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savion47 Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 8:54 PM, Burk said: its still not R....nothing you can point to will change that. My statement is 100% true and verifiable by your own link. Next...... Having played Burk a number of times at tabletop I can say unequivocally that his rolling technique does not produce random rolls. This can be said for any other person I play and they win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burk Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 @Ish - @WestRider when do you guys plan to get your game in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbr Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 7:11 AM, Burk said: its a long standing debate in the BB2 community. So yes it does for keeping the tension, and laughs going. Note this is mainly done in jest, although you must always remember the most important thing about this game is that it has clearly been proven that RNG is not R. I've been very active in the BB 2 community since the day the game was released and this is the only place anyone ever talks about the RNG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spielmannsfluch Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Math is hard. I work with people with advanced grad degrees in math and stats and code writers who easily get confused when presented with real life numbers and situations. "What are you even asking me? I majored in math, not arithmetic!" "The code is not flawed or broken. It is performing exactly as it was written." I love my job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostitute Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 At any point in time after ANY you mastered the RNG of Cyanide's BB2 or real life Blood Bowl. Lets have a chat over beer about your Major tournament win. "Blood Bowl isn't a dice game." Travis Childs. GL masters of math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 “There is no such thing as luck. There is only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe.” —Robert A. Heinlein, Have Space Suit — Will Travel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burk Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 hours ago, sbr said: I've been very active in the BB 2 community since the day the game was released and this is the only place anyone ever talks about the RNG. you must ignore facebook..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotthartman Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Can we keep the debate to another thread and use this for match pairings? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 18 hours ago, Burk said: @Ish - @WestRider when do you guys plan to get your game in? Whenever Ish wants. I'm totally flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaels Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 22 hours ago, scotthartman said: Can we keep the debate to another thread and use this for match pairings? No! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burk Posted December 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 21 hours ago, WestRider said: Whenever Ish wants. I'm totally flexible. @Ish @WestRider Please try to get it done soon. this is the only game holding back week 2's completion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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