40K 9th ed

[Mulgrok]

Geeks & Games had a bunch of boxes available for pre-order.  So I got setup for mine.

[Sugarlessllama]

Here in Bellingham I was able to get one at Dark Tower. It was close though. 

[Lyraeus]

I think I will just get the books for now. 

[WestRider]

Makes me glad the only thing on the preorders that I'm actually interested in is the Objective Markers.

[Brandon]

Geeks and games did 15 percent off and had plenty of box sets at 130pm today. 

I read that the new chapter approved rule book has the rules in it, so maybe no big expensive book needed.

Plus the app has rules and codexes. We will see how well that works. Not going to hold my breath but I sure wish GW hits the app out of the park. 

[Lyraeus]

3 hours ago, Brandon said:

Geeks and games did 15 percent off and had plenty of box sets at 130pm today. 

I read that the new chapter approved rule book has the rules in it, so maybe no big expensive book needed.

Plus the app has rules and codexes. We will see how well that works. Not going to hold my breath but I sure wish GW hits the app out of the park. 

Here is the contents page for the GT Book. Get the BRB for the lore is likely the best idea though there could be some different missions. 

 

[Ish]

I briefly considered getting just the Chapter Approved books once I learned they included the rules... But I realized I haven’t bought a full-size core rulebook since Third Edition. It’d be nice to have a big fluff bible again.

[PumpkinHead]

The app is delayed so they can sell the chapter approved books. Else there would be no reason to buy the books now.

[blackvigil]

Battle Scribe will be updated within a couple weeks, I'd bet. I am getting the BRB, but I'll skip the Chapter Approved. 

[Skkipper]

i went with the rulebook and the 2 extra books. I am curious if forgeworld will release points or they are in the muturinum or what ever it is called.

 

[Mulgrok]

Making Forge World rules exclusive to the app would be one hell of a way to get people to buy into it.

[VonVilkee]

18 minutes ago, Skkipper said:

i went with the rulebook and the 2 extra books. I am curious if forgeworld will release points or they are in the muturinum or what ever it is called.

 

There was a contents page somewhere that showed forge world points in one of those books you got

[ZeroStride]

Yes the points updates for Forge World will be in that point-update-book-thingy.

[Ish]

[Brandon]

10 minutes ago, necrontyr said:

New FAQ's are posted

https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#warhammer-40000

And I thought I was going to get work done today... Great.

[Lyraeus]

HAHAHA points are out as well. Orks took a punch to the gut with the current points changes. It is what it is though. FAQ doesn't have anything for us

[Ish]

Well, at least they fixed that 1+ problem...

[Mulgrok]

The shields are now useless for Salamanders who already ignore AP -1.  They look cool though, and that is what counts.

EDIT: I forgot the lieutenant gets an invulnerable save.  That is neat.

[Lyraeus]

11 minutes ago, Mulgrok said:

The shields are now useless for Salamanders who already ignore AP -1.  They look cool though, and that is what counts.

EDIT: I forgot the lieutenant gets an invulnerable save.  That is neat.

So then wouldnt this let you ignore up to AP2?

[Dusldorf]

triumph of st katherine is exempt from the rule that makes obscuring terrain not apply to models w/ 18 or more wounds, hell yes

[Lyraeus]

Sisters are still an army I am interested in. 

 

I am thinking of doing Orks, Necrons, and Sisters. No Chaos faction interests me...

[Ish]

“Forged in Battle” says that when resolving an attack made with a weapon that has an Armor Penetration characteristic of -1 against a unit with the Salamanders’ chapter tactic, the weapon is treated as having an Armour Penetration characteristic of 0.

The erratum for the storm shield adds 1 to the result of a saving throw. Salamanders are still going to be helped by this!

3+ Armor Save versus AP -1 (treated as AP 0) weapon...  

• Roll a 1; An unmodified roll of 1 always fails;

• Roll a 2, modified to a 3; Pass;   

• Roll a 3, modified to a 4; Pass;  

• Roll a 4, modified to a 5; Pass;  

• Roll a 5, modified to a 6; Pass;  

• Roll a 6, modified to a 7; Pass.  

3+ Armor Save versus AP -2 weapon...  

• Roll a 1; An unmodified roll of 1 always fails;

• Roll a 2, modified to a 1; Fail;   

• Roll a 3, modified to a 2; Fail;  

• Roll a 4, modified to a 3; Pass;  

• Roll a 5, modified to a 4; Pass;  

• Roll a 6, modified to a 5; Pass.  

Against AP -3 or better, maths make it equivalent (AP-3) or better (AP-4 or greater) to switch to the 4+ Invulnerable Save

[SigurdBC]

17 minutes ago, Lyraeus said:

So then wouldnt this let you ignore up to AP2?

I believe the Salamander's Chapter Trait is to only ignore AP 1 weaponry. If a weapon is AP 2 or above then the trait doesn't apply. An auto bolt rifle's AP1 would be ignored, but a plasma gun's AP -3 wouldn't. It's an all or nothing trait. This is much like a Rubric Marines "All is Dust" ability. They normally get a +1 to their armor save if they get hit with a Dmg 1 weapon. However, if you hit them with anything but that then their armor bonus is nullified and they have to suffer the affects of the weapon's ap as well. 

[Lyraeus]

Ahhh I see its not a stacking. Still against AP2 instead of a 5+ save you get a 4+ so its fine and AP1 is still a 3+ 

[Ish]

And on Terminators, with their base 2+ Save, the Salamanders chapter tactics’ benefit would be even better than on power armored Marines’ 3+ Save. But, at present, no Terminators have the new storm shield...

It’s not nearly as broken as the 1+ Save shenanigans, but it’s still nice.